In 1997 one of the weirdest documentaries about UFOs and aliens was released on VHS. It’s called Area 51: The Alien Interview.
The film features the anonymous, surly and controversial character “Victor” who supposedly had access to the top-secret S4 facility at Area 51.
Not only that, Victor had witnessed interviews with extraterrestrials who lived on the base, and he had the footage to prove it.
The film features Steven Williams (Mr. X from X-files) as the host (in the most 90s bad-(ass?) leather jacket I’ve ever seen) and is narrated by Greg O’Neill.
We also get to see experts’ opinions on the footage, including (but not limited to) ufologists Robert Dean and Michael Hesemann, as well as special effects and make up artists John Criswell and Rick Baker.
It’s all very pseudo-scientific but entertaining to watch nonetheless.
I’ll return to the parts with Robert Dean later in the article because he says some interesting things which tie in to recent events in the US congress on the topic of UAPs.
I won’t go into more details on what happens in the interview with the alien here, as I don’t want to spoil the movie (which you’ll find further down) for those who haven’t seen it.
Further down, you’ll also find follow-up interviews with Victor 11 years later. So let’s walk down another path of the endless UFO rabbit hole.
Tapping into the Area 51 narrative and ufology as a whole
Area 51: Alien Interview builds on the legacy of Bob Lazar, who had done his famous interview about Area 51 and S4 in 1989.
If you’re unfamiliar with who he is, you can read more about the legendary Bob Lazar and see interviews and documentaries about him here.
Victor had smuggled footage of an alien interview from the base, which he had somehow gotten his hands on when the original analog footage had been digitalized. And as we all know, digital data tends to leak.
The alien interview footage is also from 1989 (the same year Lazar gave his now famous interview with George Knapp from the legendary Coast to Coast AM show).
In it, we see an interview with an apparent EBE (Extraterrestrial Biological Entity). It occurs mainly in the dark since the creature (a “grey?”) is supposedly sensitive to light.
And since multiple accounts from close encounters of the 3rd kind (such as the Ariel school incident in Zimbabwe covered in the excellent documentary The Phenomenon) suggests that aliens communicate telepathically, a human telepath is in the room translating what the creature says.
As I said, I won’t give anything away about what then happens.
Both Victor and the alien seem to stress the point that our human body is just a container. Our soul (or spirit) is our true self, and we can transition from one container to another.
This bears the marks of reincarnation – not only limited to Earth – but sentient beings across the universe.
It’s similar to the narrative you find in New Age narratives – or when things go bad: cults.
After Victor had obtained the footage from S4, he contacted Tom Coleman from Rocket Pictures.
I haven’t been able to find any information on Rocket Pictures. Instead, IMDB mentions Vega 7 Entertainment as the production company.
Why Victor contacted Tom Coleman, I don’t know either. But it sure does raise a red flag when a video production company is the one to release such footage.
Apparently, the reason was that no news outlets would pick up the story.
According to Coleman, he was initially skeptical, but something about Victor convinced him to make the documentary and release the footage.
As is often the case with documentaries, the film is a mix of interviews and recreations of earlier events related to the subject.
You can find a full list of producers and the crew involved on IMDB.
Rocket Pictures used Coast to Coast AM as a way to market the movie and the alien footage. In fact, Victor was interviewed on the phone by Art Bell in May 1997 about the footage.
Thoughts on the Robert Dean interview and recent events in US congress
As I mentioned in the beginning, the Robert Dean interview was what I actually found the most compelling.
Robert Dean is a former Nato Commandor turned ufologist. He takes the footage at face value and believes it to be genuine.
I’m not convinced, but that’s not what is important. Here’s what iis mportant – and I quote (from around 59:42 mark in the film):
Narrator: “Robert Dean heads a growing movement lobbying Congress to release former NASA intelligence and military officials from their security oaths so they can talk openly about US involvement with UFOs and aliens.”
Robert Dean: “As early as 49 your government knew we were dealing with extraterrestrial intelligence.
And then it sort of blew up more and more every year that were more discoveries, more conclusions, more contacts.
And as you probably know we have indeed retrieved crashed hardware and we have reverse engineered it and we have indeed been flying some of that hardware in this base not to too many miles outside of Nellis near Las Vegas”
Narrator: “Dean believes the time has come for the government to tell the people what it knows.”
Robert Dean: “The truth has got to come out! We’re over 30 years too late the people not only have a right to know they have a need to know.
And dammit […] I stand in this belief and I will […] say this and stand by this till the day I die: Congress has the responsibility, Congress has the obligation to the people to the Constitution and to the nation.”
This is exactly what has happened since 2017 when the New York Times released the now famous article Glowing Auras and ‘Black Money’: The Pentagon’s Mysterious U.F.O. Program and revealed the existence of AATIP and the three UAP videos named the Gimbal, the Tic Tac and the Go Fast.
People like Lue Elizondo and Christopher Mellon have been working tirelessly behind and on the scene to get the US Congress to release new legislation allowing current and former military personnel to tell congress what they know and have seen under oath in congressional hearings without being prosecuted for breaking their NDA.
The sad thing is that Robert Dean said 25 years ago that this needed to happen, and we were already 30 years too late.
But on the positive side, many gears have been set in motion since 2017 that mostly all work toward greater understanding and public transparency of the phenomenon.
The movie and follow-up interviews
As I said earlier, I promised to post a link to the movie. But I’ve also included a two-part interview with Victor recorded 11 years later.
And let me start by saying that Victor hasn’t grown soft with the years. He’s still his old unfriendly self – if not more!
Here you can watch Area 51: Alien Interview for free in full below:
Here’s the first part of the follow-up interview:
And here’s the second part:
You’ll be glad to know that we’ve survived the doomsday that Victor suggests would happen around 2016-2017.
That being said, the Doomsday Clock is closer to midnight than ever since its debut in 1947 – you know – the year of the Roswell crash.
So maybe Victor was only off by a few years – like the Mayan calendar that was the inspiration for the end-of-the-world movie 2012?
Conclusion – and who IS this mysterious Victor?
I’m not going to be the judge on whether this footage is real or not. There’s too little data to go by.
If I had to guess, I’d say it’s a hoax. The alien’s movements look like bad puppeteering, and this production has many red flags.
For one, the footage was released by a video production company with little to no track record. Second, Victor received money for the interviews. Third, they seem to tap into the whole Lazar story – even Lazar’s reluctance to be on camera.
If I’m wrong, this is the most important footage in human history.
Another question I want to address here is, who is this Victor?
Some think Victor might be a woman or Robert Dean himself.
Others think that Victor and Bob Lazar is the same person. See this video and tell me what you think: